Comments on: Sort of about rigor — also about tough questions http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/ tales of swimming upstream Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:27:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Gardner http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4603 Gardner Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:26:52 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4603 It's been a few years, but that zombie feel is still pretty well burned into my memory too. Many years on the other side I can say it's all worth it, but then I'm much more likely to be awakened by the dog than by the kids these days.... And yes, there's an emotional energy that just goes down after awhile, and it's not laziness or fear. It's just the stamina running out. I know that feeling well, too, despite my incessant commenting. (Well, newly incessant; I ceased pretty well there for a bit.) It’s been a few years, but that zombie feel is still pretty well burned into my memory too. Many years on the other side I can say it’s all worth it, but then I’m much more likely to be awakened by the dog than by the kids these days….

And yes, there’s an emotional energy that just goes down after awhile, and it’s not laziness or fear. It’s just the stamina running out. I know that feeling well, too, despite my incessant commenting. (Well, newly incessant; I ceased pretty well there for a bit.)

]]> By: Martha http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4580 Martha Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:16:44 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4580 Ah, Jeff I think you're on to something. Exhaustion can definitely be a factor for me -- and not always physical exhaustion, but "organizational" exhaustion. Also, the exhaustion of having a newborn and feeling like a zombie. I remember that well and feel for you! Ah, Jeff I think you’re on to something. Exhaustion can definitely be a factor for me — and not always physical exhaustion, but “organizational” exhaustion.

Also, the exhaustion of having a newborn and feeling like a zombie. I remember that well and feel for you!

]]> By: Jeff http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4544 Jeff Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:09:14 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4544 Ok, now I'm avoiding a conflict with Gardner over our definitions of fear.... But why? Largely out of exhaustion. Do you think the Lotus Eaters had a newborn? Ok, now I’m avoiding a conflict with Gardner over our definitions of fear…. But why? Largely out of exhaustion. Do you think the Lotus Eaters had a newborn?

]]> By: Gardner http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4539 Gardner Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:14:25 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4539 What is the desire to avoid conflict if it isn't fear? Or torpor, even: just not wanting to spend the energy. Were the Lotos Eaters lazy, afraid, or both? What is the desire to avoid conflict if it isn’t fear? Or torpor, even: just not wanting to spend the energy. Were the Lotos Eaters lazy, afraid, or both?

]]> By: Jeff http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4504 Jeff Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:49:14 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4504 I'd make a distinction between fear and a simple (simplistic?) desire to avoid any kind of conflict. It's so much easier just to nod your head and move on. I’d make a distinction between fear and a simple (simplistic?) desire to avoid any kind of conflict. It’s so much easier just to nod your head and move on.

]]> By: Gardner http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4446 Gardner Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:20:02 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4446 I think Brian's right. Fear, torpor, selfishness: the usual suspects. Oy vey! I think Brian’s right. Fear, torpor, selfishness: the usual suspects. Oy vey!

]]> By: Brian http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4424 Brian Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:35:04 +0000 http://www.marthaburtis.net/wrapping/2007/02/15/sort-of-about-rigor-also-about-tough-questions/#comment-4424 Interesting post. My initial guess is that there is a prevalent fear that this sort of communication may unearth unpleasant truths, or perhaps just draw more energy to engage properly. Interesting post. My initial guess is that there is a prevalent fear that this sort of communication may unearth unpleasant truths, or perhaps just draw more energy to engage properly.

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